Main Line Commodore User Group


June 2012 Issue 361


MEETING STARTS - 09:30 -- JUNE 9th



By suggestion & request we'll discuss some things to consider when setting up a new Windows 7 computer for the first time. Believe it or not, some of our members have never had the experience of starting up a new pristine computer, or for that matter, starting up a newly installed Windows OS.

Despite the fact that we'll be presenting the startup of a new computer, many of those things we'll discuss are pertinent to Win7 computers that have been in service for some time as I know some of our appliance users turn a naive blind eye toward configuring their computers to best suit the way they work or towards reliability, privacy, & security of operation.

Some of what we present will be a refresher of our February and July meeting topics during the past year. Some will cover aspects & features of Windows that we've never covered before. Though the subjects will be quite mundane, I hope we don't glaze too many eyeballs.


1) Club membership entitles you to receive a hard copy of the newsletter and access to our email list server, which is run for the benefit of our members. Please do not hesitate to post club and computer related notices and problems to it. If we can't solve your problem remotely, we can be alerted to it ahead of the monthly meeting where more hands-on may help resolve your problem.

2) A few of the regular attendees usually partake of lunch at the Campus Corner Restaurant near the intersection of Routes 30 and 320 just off the Villanova University campus. So, after the meeting, why not join us? It's an opportunity to get more help and to discuss our common interests.

3) Help MLCUG go ``Green''. We issue this newsletter by both electronic means through our email list server and in hardcopy format. If you find yourself not reading the hardcopy, PLEASE inform John D, the editor, so that you will only receive the electronic version.


Attendance: 11 people in all attended the meeting on Saturday, May 12th.

Main Meeting Q&A: We began last month's meeting with our normal round of questions and announcements. Among the questions and announcements:

Main Meeting Program: The main meeting presentation topic was "VoIP vs POTS vs Mobile" and was presented by John D.

John's focus was on the cost benefits of VoIP, but he also covered the differences in technology, the pros & cons of each service, security aspects, different mobile technologies and offerings, who some of the providers are, what to consider if you're transitioning between or adding different services.

A PDF summary over view of the presentation can be found here:

MEETING RELATED SIDEBAR This section contains web links & other info related to some of the subjects we discussed during our round table discussions and main presentation.

MAPPING A NETWORK DRIVE This work-around is targeted at Windows users.  There are somewhat similar partial work-arounds for the Mac & I would guess for Linux.

Web Reference:

This work-around may work to enable you to access a network device that refuses to show up in the Windows Network Explorer GUI.

As we all know, WFS (Windows File Share) networking can be problematic at best.  Drives and devices on your network sometimes don't show up in the Explorer network GUI for various reasons.  What follows is hopefully a work-around that will work for you.  It uses the CMD (CLI or Command Line Interface) to get info that can be used to MAP (assign a network storage drive as a Windows letter drive) a network storage drive.  I do not guarantee that this will give the results suggested below, but it hopefully will.

To launch Windows CMD (CLI) interface:

  • Go to Start & click on the Run... option
  • At the Run prompt interface type CMD in the prompt window & press Enter or click OK.
  • This should launch a CMD window as shown in the next section below

    Net View Commands:

  • In the CMD window type: net view /domain & press Enter
  • This command should give you a list of the Workgroups on your network.  The example picture below shows 2 workgroups on my home network.  They are: o AppleTV o WorkGroup
  • NOTE: Common Windows default workgroup names are "workgroup" and "mshome".
  • Next, to see the network devices in the workgroup named workgroup, type: net view /domain:workgroup & press Enter
  • This command should show all networked devices in the workgroup named "workgroup".  The example picture below for my home network shows 5 devices in the workgroup named "workgroup".  They are:
  • \\BRN001BA95558F7
  • \\FADS1A93E9
  • \\HP-P6267C

    Here is a picture of the commands as used on my network:

    How to Open an Explorer Window to a Network Drive Say I wanted to open an Explorer window to the device named "\\boxeebox".  I would open the "Run..." prompt in the Start menu as we did earlier and enter:


    into the prompt and press Enter or click OK to open an Explorer window to view drives attached to the device.  An Explorer window should launch similar to the one shown here:

    The above window shows a network connection to the BoxeeBox device (a media center device I own).  It just so happens that there is a drive connected to the BoxeeBox and it has a partition with the same name - boxeebox.  The drive partition is shown in the window as a networked folder.  When I double-click on the folder, I get the picture below:

    In the above picture I've selected the address bar with my mouse which after being selected shows the full network path to the folder (drive partition in this instance) & its contents.  That path is:


    To Map a Network Drive As an example, clicking on the Tools menu in the above Explorer picture offers the option to:

    Map Network Drive...

    Selecting this option should launch a window where you can enter the network address path to the folder or drive of interest.  In this example, the folder network path is:


    NOTE: In this example, the above link is not to a folder on a drive, but to the hard drive partition itself.  In this case the drive partition "boxeebox" resides on the hard drive connected to the BoxeeBox entertainment center which also has the name "boxeebox".

    By default my Win7 computer automatically wants to assign the last available drive letter in the alphabet, but you can change this to an available drive letter of your liking.  NOTE that the "Reconnect at logon" check box is selected by default.  If you leave this setting selected and later restart your computer, Windows will try to reconnect at logon and assign the specified drive letter to the network drive.  If Windows cannot find the drive, it will pop an error message window at logon to indicate a problem.  If you really want to assign a drive letter to the network drive, click Finish to save the settings and assign a drive letter to the network drive.

    The next time you want to access the drive, use My Computer (XP) or Computer (Vista / Win7) to open the drive in Explorer.  It will now have an assigned drive letter.

    If you later decide to undo the mapping, just open Explorer and go to its Tools menu and select "Disconnect network drive...".


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